Why do nice guys always get friend zone

Okay so here's the thing every time I approach a woman and we hit it off I told them I would like to take them out on a date and they always respond with your so nice I don't want to lose you as a friends and I get it if you've been friends for a while it's hard to get out of there but I'm talking about I talked to a woman I meet I get to know her she gets to know me I asked them out and it's like I don't want to lose you as a friend fwl and it hurts because I don't go into it thinking we won't just be friends but that's all I get is it cuz I'm nice should I be mean? but that's not me help

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Women value a man who doesn't always want them physically because almost all guys want them physically. Don't be mean, use that kindness to support them, and eventually you'll find someone who genuinely is attracted to you in return. By which point you'll be a better person for it.

Just realize it has nothing to do with you being "nice" but everything to do with her not being sexually attracted to you. If some random woman whom I don't find sexually attractive is nice to me, I will respond in kind, but I won't sleep with her... because one has nothing to do with another. I don't know why that's such a hard concept to grasp.

I know what you're saying but that's not what I'm saying I'm talking about how I take them get to know them as a potential partner but then I always get friend-zoned then they go off to see the mean guy or bad boy also you're kind of rude not really positive I don't like your energy 😒

Yeah you sound whiney - it's not a trait that most women find sexually attractive. Good luck though.

So if you have nothing nice to say into the world please just keep it to yourself

When they give you the "oh that's why they friendzone you" answer lol

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"If you have nothing nice to say into the world please just keep it to yourself" is not an argument. With all due respect You asked a question and he gave you his opinion as an answer respectfully on the comments section, you just said that you're a "nice guy" but as we can see your post doesn't really match your comments, if you aren't going to read, respect, and think about other people's opinions you don't have to ask them to give it to you at the first place. And with this mentality you won't fix a thing.

No, do not be mean. This goes deeper than just women not wanting “nice guys”. If you’re genuinely nice, don’t change. I believe the women that actually like you as more than a friend, won’t put you in the “friend zone”.

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You’re welcome

Why are you nice? Are you nice to men too?

Yes I'm generally just a nice kind guy I guess not to toot my own horn

Women are hypergamous.. brain is hardwired to always select the best mate they think they can get. If you're being excessively nice to them it signals to them that you are in a scarcity mindset and the hamster in there head sees through that and starts telling them to keep looking. In short you need to become spoiled for choice. Start spinning plates.. hitting up multiple avenues/dating scenes. Most women out here have 100s of matches every day lol. Lets be realistic. It's impossible to be overly nice when you are spoiled for choice.

Perhaps it's because you flew too close to sun and got burnt. In order words you have already gotten too close to them in term of the relationship you already have with them and now they don't want to ruin that already set relationship. That explains the routine phrase you alway receive "I don't want to loose you as a friend".

But don't you got to know them before you can truly experience a relationship with them

Perhaps, but if they were truly interested in going out with you, they would have stated so, or mayb they were just trying to let you down easily instead of getting a direct NO. You got friendzoned even before you knew it. But you never know what going on the mind of a woman 🤷

They're as mysterious as the the human soul and as far reaching as a stars in the sky my small mortal male brain can never comprehend them

We're really not

Don't go in with any expectations. Let the conversation flow naturally, as Bruce Lee once said "be like water my friend"

I am no expert on women, but from what I have seen atleast, they may simply be looking for a more physically attractive man without having the self-control or physical safety to be honest about that. When I was a teenager I was told by people on the internet that women are drastically wired cerebrally different than men, and have little to no actual sapience, simply brutal instinctual mimickry of the male sapience to serve the sociopathic ends of genetic propagation with the healthiest mate... I have since been strongly convinced this is not true, and women are genuinely sapient humans who are practically just men but softer and more feminine. I have since seen many women who are genuinely very altruistic and honest people who are truthfully looking for a long-term relationship with a good personality, with little regard to sexual attractiveness, although not everyone is built for this sort of relationship. Also? Solely choosing people for sex is not wrong. It is sad and leads to the exclusion of many good people, but as far as I can tell? Life is not fair, and I assume you want the truth, so here is my attempt at that.

Johnathan, it feels like you are dropping a confession before you have given these women ample time to like you. And there is no problem with turning a long time friend into a girlfriend. You simply have to let them know you are attracted to them little by little. You can't just act like a women's best friend with no hint of sexual attraction to her if you eventually want to confess. I always make these boundaries very clear. And I never have problems going out with female friends. After all, every great love starts out as a friend. As long as you set a clear boundary. So, in short.... Better timing. And you need to let these women know you are attracted to them as time goes on leading up to a confession. Also, I've seen jonesy post some weird comments about woman. Trust me when I say this. He doesn't know anything about interacting with women 😆😆😆 And is probably in an eternal friend zone.

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The same reason females do

It depends on what type of a "nice guy" you are, are you expressing your kindness geniusly or not.., be nice but not in a dumb way. There's a "smart nice guy" and a "dumb nice guy" , and the majority of women are not attracted to the dumb nice guy , but also the majority of women are not attracted to the mean guy.

How much is nice in dollars?